Curse

ArKaiN · Apr 20, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Hard Mode is upon us, and of course, the first thing I did was checking every farming spot I know to see what still works. Why? First of all, challenge. Its like everywhere is UW. Second, there's this:

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The average number of uncommon and rare items has been increased in Hard mode.

So you get more bang for your buck. Cool. Problem? It takes more time to do everything, so it's not really worth it. Right?
Mostly, yes. Boss farming is a pain in the ass, and you sometimes get to a good farming spot only to find out one of the foes has a different skill than you're used to, resulting in multiple deaths. But there are exceptions.
55 farming works. And people, it works BETTER than in normal mode. Why? Because foes in HM attack faster. Sometimes MUCH faster. That means SS and SoJ do a real number on them. Try hydras. Try griphons outside Camp Rankor. Try dead sword farming. Its amazing.
130 also works really well, except foes have more life than normal, so it's not as effective, but you still get more golds and purples per time spent. Not to mention HM chests - I'm yet to get a grape from those.
Anyone else got HM news for us?

Selor · Apr 20, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I've tried it, it seems without a party your drop rates dramatically decrease.

EDIT: I forgot to add that it is still higher than in normal mode, don't get me wrong.

kielus · Apr 20, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

solo ain't that effective (in loot) anymore... they kiled solo farming in HM :P (e/a in gloom works though)

fgarvin · Apr 20, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Just did a Kappa and Dragon Root run. One gold drop and ~200gp...total. Out of ~25 mobs, only three drops. BUT...the xp was outstanding. Looks like this will be a way to get the xp needed for Skill Hunter.

kumarshah · Apr 20, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59

What about us Warriors? Anybody try out any builds with Warriors in hard mode?

milan · Apr 20, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Odd thing. Seems that any characters (that are level 20) cannot access hard mode in campaigns that were completed by other characters before your current character was created.

i.e. Completed factions several months ago and created a character 2 months ago that now has no access to Canthan Hard mode. I have not done the final mission with any character since creating the new one.

The character has access to Elonan and Tyrian Hard mode.

ArKaiN · Apr 20, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by milan

Odd thing. Seems that any characters (that are level 20) cannot access hard mode in campaigns that were completed by other characters before your current character was created.

i.e. Completed factions several months ago and created a character 2 months ago that now has no access to Canthan Hard mode. I have not done the final mission with any character since creating the new one.

The character has access to Elonan and Tyrian Hard mode.

Odd indeed, but lets keep this thread on farming please

MercenaryKnight · Apr 20, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Anyone tried bringing a full group of heroes/ henchies and flagging them off the radar yet to see if drops increase?

pug_ster · Apr 20, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Is solo farming affected in normal mode, like green farming? Thanks.

fino · Apr 20, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

yeah i tryed it
7 hench and me i flagged the hences out of agro (on the radar) and do the solo
but only 1 problem the hences loot your loot you dont got more

now i triy OFF the radar flagging or somting like that

sorry bad eng

AscalonWarrior · Apr 20, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Well, just tried to solo Sunqua Vale (in HM) with Beast Master build, worked great and got few decent drops, every mob dropped something

So I don't think it affected to Hard Mode?

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Apr 20, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Thats great i just paid 10k for stuff for a/e and soloing sucks now lol

Selor · Apr 21, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Well, I've been traveling around tyria on my 55, SS seems to be the only thing that works well, although normal mode SoJ works wonders, it needs 3-4 casts to take down relatively simple mobs, SS on the other hand you can keep throwing out.

In other news I have a feeling mino bots are coming back in normal mode, since they DO NOT scatter anymore.

Craero · Apr 21, 2007, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by Selor

In other news I have a feeling mino bots are coming back in normal mode, since they DO NOT scatter anymore.

Main purpose of mino farming was for the whites... I seriously doubt many companies will set up a ton of bots to farm them unless something serious changes, and on hard mode a 55 monk can't kill HM minos... (Blame heal-sig)

dies like fish · Apr 21, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Craero

Main purpose of mino farming was for the whites... I seriously doubt many companies will set up a ton of bots to farm them unless something serious changes, and on hard mode a 55 monk can't kill HM minos... (Blame heal-sig)

You'll just have to change your 55 build so it can kill minos....interrupts ftw

Silly Warrior · Apr 21, 2007, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by ArKaiN

So you get more bang for your buck. Cool. Problem? It takes more time to do everything, so it's not really worth it. Right?
?

Well sorta, if you want some fun Hard Mode, try anywhere in Desolation, with wurms.

Its almost as easy, your team never dies, and you get get ALOT more loot, its also the perfect place to farm your Sunspear titles, because its so easy in Desolation on hard mode.

So it really don't take that much more time in hard mode in Desolation, with worms, from my experience.

andrewf · Apr 21, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Thanks to hard mode I found a spot that can... hopefully get me a max Colossal Scimitar soon.

ToxicWasted · Apr 21, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Share thy farming spots!

shogun avatar · Apr 21, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19

well, i've tried some spots (full team of 4), so here is my experience:
Sunqua vale - 1h in hard mode netted me 3k and 1 gold item
Plains of Jahrin - around hour and a half to wipe everything, 2 lockpicks, 6 gold items (excluding chests) and around 5k in loot
Cliffs of Dohjok - hour and a half, 4 gold, 6k in loot
Alkai Pan - tried both solo and with full team. Full team was quicker and netted a LOT more loot (2k in loot afer soloing, got no golds, no rare materials)
With full team (8) i got 1 ruby, 3 fangs, 1 claw, 5 golds and 3k in loot
Myrror of lyss - got owned with full team (8) very quickly so i gave up

Conclusion: i'll keep wipeing areas with FULL team, solo is defintly not worth it

IAmFlip · Apr 21, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Can someone post their 55 SS necro build please